In this exciting episode, you’ll learn how to stimulate the “g-spot” and how to have more fun in your bedroom by learning how to work with this beautiful aspect of female pleasure and orgasm.
Join us as my guest, Tilly Storm, a sex coach for women, teaches about unlocking this new dimension in your marriage. Even if including the g-spot is already something you’re doing in your relationship, I promise you’ll gain a lot out of this podcast anyway. If you’re new to this, well, you’ve got a whole new dimension in your relationship to uncover and explore together!
And I hope you have a lot of fun exploring it, just like my wife and I have had a lot of fun putting into practice a lot of the things that Tilly teaches in this episode!
Resources:
Sexual Mindfulness Seminar Series with Dr. Chelom Leavitt
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Episode 210
I’m excited to have a guest today on my podcast.
Dan: Her name is Tilly storm. She is a sex coach for women, and we, she has a lot to say about the amazing G-spot and how to stimulate it and how to have more fun in your bedroom by learning how to work with this. Beautiful aspect of female pleasure and [00:01:00] orgasm. Now. For some of you, this might already be something you’re already doing your relationship, but I promise you’ll gain a lot out of this podcast anyway. If you’re new to this, well, you’ve got a whole new dimension in your relationship to uncover and explore together.
And I hope you have a lot of fun exploring it, just like my wife and I have had a lot of fun. , putting into practice. A lot of the things that Tilly is going to teach today.
After listening to this episode, if you and your spouse would like some extra help in your relationship to growing closer together and working through intimacy issues so that you can unlock new dimensions of sexual pleasure in your relationship, please check out my coaching program, where I work with you one-on-one and helping you really move that needle in the positive direction or relationship it’s called the, get your marriage on program and those details are on our website and in the show notes as well. We had the seminar series going on with Dr. Shalom Levitt about sexual mindfulness and it’s started already, but you can still join.
You can catch the last [00:02:00] recording and catch up to us really quick.
It’s a fantastic seminar for anyone. Whoever wants to feel closer to their spouse, who wants to feel more grounded, who wants to not feel so anxious or just wants to take things up a notch.
This is taught by a professor. She’s a researcher. She researches the intersection of sexuality and mindfulness, and all those details. Sales are on our website, or you can check our show notes for that.
All right. Let’s move on to a fun conversation about G-spot orgasms.
Tilly, welcome to the Get Your Marriage On podcast. How are you today?
Tilly: I’m wonderful.
Thank you so much for having me, Dan.
Dan: So you’re a sexuality coach, especially towards And I, I’ve been following you have a little bit. Tell me about a time when you first started, sexuality coaching with women.
Yeah, I started doing Jade egg workshops. at a healing center and a yoga studio in town.
Dan: People don’t know what a jade egg is. What’s that?
Tilly: [00:03:00] I get that everyone’s probably like, what the heck does she say? Not even chat GPT can figure out what a jade egg is the way that it’s spelled. It is hilarious. It is an egg shaped stone that you use in your vaginal canal. You do different squeezes and releases and breathwork practices with it to build Sensate focus and increase your tone and stress and your vaginal canal, which is directly correlated to the length and strength of your orgasms, ladies.
Dan: All right.
Tilly: Well, it is an explicitly sexual practice. So the fact that these people would let me do this kind of workshop in their studio and space was a miracle. And it’s not like anyone is naked. It’s fully closed. There’s nothing nude or weird about it other than yes, you are like doing restorative yoga.
It kind of looks like a yin yoga class. [00:04:00] And this gal. You know, once we got into the rhythm of the, the practice that I was leading them through, she started to burst out laughing and she was trying hard to keep it together. But honestly, I was a little concerned about her and if she was actually getting anything from the practice that we were doing.
But after the session, I went over and I looked at her and she looked at me and she had this big grin on her face like Tilly, I’ve never felt so free in my life. And I was like, okay, great. So I realized how serious I had taken my work and in this workshop how much it’s about not taking it seriously and what a great metaphor for our sex lives in general is that when we’re having issues, we get so down and out about it.
We started to think that there’s something wrong with us. And [00:05:00] the one thing I learned from that whole experience is just to stop overthinking it, just have fun. Yes. My approach.
Dan: Right. Right. I think so many couples, sex is so loaded, like, come on, let your hair down. Have fun here. Right. Don’t take ourselves so seriously.
In fact, let’s talk about having more fun in the bedroom today. Specifically, we’re going to talk about the G spot, which I’ve never done an episode on this. It’s over 200 episodes. So I’m really interested in diving deeper here. Tell me of a time, Tillie, when you first discovered your G spot.
Tilly: Mm. I have two very distinct memories.
One was with a guy that I had been super hot and heavy for, and oh, yeah, it was like mega, mega sexual attraction with him, and when we were finally able to be intimate together, the amount of pleasure and ecstasy From no [00:06:00] effort at all. Not thinking about it, not trying like first time with this guy too.
And I had more liquid that came out of me. I squirted for the first time ever. I had so much pleasure. I didn’t even know it was possible. I was like, Holy cow, how is this possible? And how does everyone not know about this? And then I had a, another guy that I saw for a while, who he would literally come to the door to let me in and we wouldn’t even get to the bedroom before he got me into a g spot orgasm or ejaculating because he was extremely skilled lover knew exactly what to do and Yeah.
I very much remember those experiences with that. No, G spot pleasure is next level.
Dan: Very good. Very good. But some people just have never really familiar with it [00:07:00] or they may have read it in a magazine or in passing. Can you describe more what is the G spot? Maybe anatomically. Let’s start there.
Tilly: It’s about one and a half to two and a half inches on the anterior side.
wall of the vaginal canal. And that’s the belly
Dan: button side in layman’s terms. Uh huh.
Tilly: Precisely. Yeah. I’m, I’m kind of a science nerd, so I’ll say things that way, but yes, the belly side. And if you use your finger to palpate the area and feel for it, you’re probably going to notice that There’s a walnut shaped ridges along the G spot area.
Not every woman has that. And it definitely helps if you’re already turned on to locate your G spot. If you don’t know where it is, I highly suggest being turned on, stroking your clitoris, things like that before. And that way it is erectile tissue, so it will [00:08:00] engorge and it will make it easier to find if you’ve never felt it before.
Dan: Got it. Got it.
So as a man, with my wife, how do I know if I’ve touched the spot? How do I touch the spot? Can you give us some details there?
Tilly: Well, you will know when you’ve touched the spot because either you can feel for that Walnut Ridgey feeling on your fingers, or she’ll tell you, she’ll be like, Oh, there’s additional sensation here.
There’s more pleasure here. It feels different than the rest of it. But if you. Are a man and you really want to figure out where that is. There’s definitely tools that help and you can use fingers. Absolutely. But sometimes there gets to be additional pressure there. So tools can help as well.
Dan: Gotcha. What do you mean by additional pressure?
Tilly: Well, a lot of times when we’re talking [00:09:00] about. G spot orgasms or female ejaculation in order to get there, sometimes, depending on what’s going on, there will need to be a lot of pressure to elicit the sensation and using just your fingers can get very tiring because it can take a while of stimulation for a woman to get there.
I mean, we already know that clitoral orgasms on average. Average take a woman 14 minutes to get there, but g spot pleasure is going to take longer and it can be tiring without it. Yeah.
Dan: So this isn’t like two minutes later getting frustrated. Hey, how come you’re not pleased yet? This isn’t that kind of a thing.
No.
Tilly: Oh goodness. No, no, no, no, no. We have those expectations. We’re going to be very disappointed unless you have like, um, orgasmic superstar wife that can get there really fast. [00:10:00] But I would say it’s definitely not the majority of women who are going to get there that fast.
Dan: All right. So, tips for husbands.
How do you touch the G spot?
Tilly: Yeah, there are several different strokes that can really bring that sense of turn on that can lead to the orgasm of the G spot or the ejaculation. I want to mention first that those are separate things. We can get into that later, but the strokes that you’ll want to elicit are either an in and out with one or two fingers.
along the anterior side, the belly side of the vaginal canal where you’re stroking it directly. It feels like that spongy area, it will start to fill up with liquid. It will start to engorge and you’ll notice, or once it’s engorged enough, you can do circles with your fingers around the G spot itself.
And what is the most common stroke is the come hither where once you’re on it and it’s, [00:11:00] yeah, and it’s fully engorged. If you want her to squirt or to have an orgasm in that area, the come hither will often elicit that. Sometimes, like I said, it can take a tool to do it, but fingers can work. If you have a woman that’s a squirter, it can happen very easily, uh, but yeah, it can be tiring after a while.
Dan: Gotcha. Alright. What about, how much pressure do I put on that spot?
Tilly: It depends on the woman. She will definitely let you know, if her hips are rocking, if she’s moaning, if she’s really into it, then you can gauge that that’s probably the right amount of pressure. If she’s just lying there like a dead fish or she’s not doing much, then that’s probably because she needs more pressure and if she’s kind of like, eh, you know, got these exercises.
Worms on her face. It’s probably because it’s too much and she’s not ready for that amount of pressure yet. It’s really about knowing your woman, being able to gauge what’s right for her. And [00:12:00] if you’re not sure, ask. It’s not that hard, but we, we often don’t do that in sexual experiences. And sometimes we just open our mouth to ask.
We’ll get an answer.
Dan: Yeah. Yeah. It can be too intense. So you got to really be present and really Read your spouse as you go through this experience together.
Tilly: Yeah, exactly.
Dan: So we’ve been talking about using fingers or a Or like a toy or tool. I’ve seen them before, they’re um, they’re slightly curved, or they, there’s a market for that.
Um, why not a penis?
Tilly: It doesn’t really hit the G spot. It can hit the cervix if it’s large enough. And if it’s hard enough, but even that cannot happen sometimes, but the, the G spot is on the anterior wall of the vaginal canal. So it’s, unless you have a very curved penis, it’s going to be hard to apply direct stimulation to it.
I’m sure there is a woman out [00:13:00] there who has G spot orgasms from just a penis, but I would say that’s very rare and very few and far between, uh, you’re going to. Much more likely, get a response, get her to orgasm there if you use fingers or a g spotter tool.
Dan: Great. You talked about how often with G spot stimulation, there’s a liquid buildup and sometimes release. We talked about squirting. Some of them, some people may not have heard that before or this phenomenon.
Can you explain what that is? What squirting really is. What is the liquid? What’s the fluid?
Tilly: Yeah. Well, there’s ongoing debates and popular magazines like Cosmo. I’m honestly tired of hearing about them, but they will debate whether or not the liquid is P or not. And I’m sorry, but there are just. Far too many women that I know of and talk about it all the time, who it’s absolutely not pee.
It has traces of pee in it, [00:14:00] but it is not just pee. And the fluid is just this fluid that gets built up from constant stimulation and it is called female ejaculate. And. It’s some refer to it and Tantra texts and more spiritual traditions that it’s called Amrita. It’s stands for the nectar of the gods.
It’s a very sacred fluid that if you can get a woman to surrender that deeply, that is a very sacred experience. Yeah. The fluid isn’t just pee, but some can come out and ejaculation the orgasm. The orgasm is not the same as the ejaculation, they can happen separately, the orgasm can happen without the ejaculation, or it can happen with it, or you can ejaculate and not have an orgasm.
There’s lots of variations there. I’ve found that there are two completely separate events for myself. [00:15:00] And I’d say that many women also would say the same if a woman is what I call a squirter, meaning that she squirts all the time. If you’re a guy out there and you’re like, yeah, my wife squirts all the time, then you know what I mean?
It’s just normal for her. That doesn’t mean she’s having an orgasm though. It just means she’s a squirter.
Dan: Gotcha. So it’s possible to squirt without the pleasurable satisfying sensation that accompanies it.
Tilly: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it does feel good, but it’s not like, uh, orgasmic experience. It feels like a release, which is nice, but it wouldn’t say it’s necessarily the same as the orgasmic experience that I get from G spot stimulation.
Dan: Gotcha. I read up a little bit on this. It’s the skein’s gland that fills with liquid and it empties into the urethral tract. So the liquid does come out of, It’s like a woman can empty her bladder before sex, like she can use the bathroom before sex and still [00:16:00] squirt. So it’s not necessarily like urine, it’s, it’s this, liquid built up from the stimulation in this part of the body.
Tilly: Yep, exactly. Just like a man’s ejaculation.
Dan: That’s right. In fact, the skein’s gland is the homologue of the male prostate. Exactly. So like men really like prostate stimulation and can ejaculate just from prostate stimulation alone. Um, it’s like, and to me it’s like a corollary kind of like that, I think.
Tilly: Yeah. Absolutely. But a lot
Dan: more fun. Yeah. I mean, they’re both fun, right? I think it’s more fun. Great. Great. Okay. Um, all right. So we’ve talked about for first timers how to locate it. We’ve set the stage that this isn’t like a two minute ordeal. You get aroused and this is a commitment and too much pressure may not feel good.
Too little pressure may not feel good. So how to really read your spouse here and communicate and just be [00:17:00] present. So as you’re, as a woman being stimulated, there does come a point where you feel like you kind of got to pee. And that can be kind of a surprise, especially during sex when you’re like, I don’t want to, to have an accident here.
How do you coach a woman through that?
Tilly: Yeah, that’s normal. The bearing down response is very common. I have squirted without that sensation of needing to bear down and with it. It goes both ways for me. I don’t know about everyone else, but I know that when I’m teaching clients to have different types of orgasms, If you apply more pressure and you get to that sensation of wanting to bear down, that is the easier way to teach it.
And I think once that happens, it kind of unlocks a portal of your G spot knowing what to [00:18:00] do. So that consecutive experiences of it may not require so much stimulation because that first time it’s like this. You know, neurons that wire together, fire together. It’s this whole experience of your body doing something that it’s never done before, and I think that the easiest way to teach it is to teach it with.
It’s proper stimulation with a lot of pressure, and it usually takes a while, and eventually you’ll get to that experience of feeling like you have to pee and bear down, and then it happens. You have that orgasmic experience, sometimes concurrently, you’ll also ejaculate. And after that, who knows? It could be really easy for you.
Dan: Great. When you say bear down, I think about like pushing out a baby. Is it a similar kind of a feel then?
Tilly: It is. Yeah. I’ve birthed two babies naturally and it’s absolutely like that. Like pushing and bearing down. [00:19:00] Absolutely.
Dan: So which sex positions work really well for couples if they want to do more G spot play?
Tilly: Yeah. If you’re not using fingers or a g spotter tool and you want g spot stimulation, you can try stimulation with a penis. The best way to do that is when you, there are really two ways that I’ve found are really good. The first is when your hips are able to kind of free for all. So think of a coffee table,
Dan: I’m thinking like hula hoop when you said that.
Tilly: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you want them to be able to undulate and move freely. Think of a coffee table. If you are doing dips on a coffee table, you know, that exercise where you’re sitting in front of the coffee,
Dan: you’re sitting in front of the coffee table. Coffee. Yes. Is that your back? Okay.
Tilly: Coffee tables behind you.
You’ve got your arms [00:20:00] holding your top half up and you’ve got your feet spread out like You’re in a squatting position. That’s how I have made it happen the easiest. And that allows me to get into that squatting position where I feel like I can bear down and when I can go there, it does happen quicker and more easily.
Uh, because I have control over it. Whereas someone that’s just stimulating me with their fingers or tool, I don’t have any control over what they’re doing. I can have to surrender to what they’re doing. And it’s easier for me to do now, but most women struggle with fully surrendering to their partner in the first place.
That’s why I would suggest doing. a position where you have more control over the experience and not just relying on your partner to provide the stimulation. Because when you’re in that, coffee table position, you do have a lot more control of what’s happening inside. [00:21:00]
Dan: I, something about what you said is just not really clear to me.
How are you doing this without a partner stimulating you or without using a tool?
Tilly: No, no, no. Your partner is stimulating you, but you have a little more control over how you’re in. You’re,
Dan: you’re calling the shots, I guess is what you’re saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tilly: Kind of like when a woman is on top of her man, she has more control over how much clitoral stimulation she’s getting.
It’s the same thing with the G spot.
Dan: It makes sense.
Tilly: Yeah. It just means that your hips, maybe the depth that he’s going. If it’s too much or not enough, you can move your hips easily in that position to accommodate. Um, and I think it’s really important for a woman to figure out what’s working for you and the pleasure that you’re getting.
I think that makes it more simple for a woman to figure out her G spot pleasure herself than to just make her man figure it out for her and be like, yeah, just figure it out. I don’t know. I mean, you could do that. Maybe, maybe you get lucky the first time, but you want to take control [00:22:00] of your pleasure also and not rely on your partner to figure all of that out for you because it can leave them feeling.
Sometimes helpless. So definitely take control over what you can have control over. And if it helps to be in a position where you do have more control over the pressure, the speed, all of that, then by all means go for it.
Dan: Gotcha. Great. Very good. Okay. How about on a bed? How do most couples do that on the bed?
Tilly: Yeah, if you are in a squatting position on top of your man, that can definitely provide more stimulation. It’s not going to be direct. Some women who are squirters and they squirt all the time. that’s, that’s All that’s required for them, but that’s probably something if you’re one of those women, that’s probably something that you’ve experienced for a long time and that’s just what happens.
And that’s just your body. If that’s not [00:23:00] you and you have been stimulated. Uh, on your G spot, but you want your man to be inside of you, then I think the best position to continue receiving G spot simulation is when you’re squatting on top of him. If that’s comfortable for you. For some people, you can’t comfortably squat.
I get it. I’ve done yoga for 20 something years, so it’s totally easy for me. Other people is not.
Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Tilly: It just kind of depends on your body and how flexible you are.
Dan: Right. Or you can grab the headboard or something like that on the bed to help or.
Tilly: Yeah. Yeah.
Dan: Or move to the floor next to the bed and use the bed for support.
But let’s find a way to make this work.
Tilly: Yep. Good.
Dan: All right. now the liquid is quite thin. It can go through sheets pretty easily. What tips do you have for people who are afraid of soiling? Bed sheets or the floor or something like that. [00:24:00] They’d hate to call the carpet clean over. You don’t have any pets.
Tilly: Fortunately, it’s 2024 and they make something for everything. You can absolutely buy a, I don’t even know what they’re called. Cause I don’t have one. Cause I don’t really care, but some people definitely do. And there’s the soaker sheets, I guess is what they’re called. Uh, Yeah, I honestly don’t even know, but you can buy a pad that will absorb all of the liquid that you can literally just throw right in the washing machine after and it won’t get the rest of your bed wet.
Dan: Very good, very good. Okay, tilly, can everyone, can every woman have a G spot orgasm?
Tilly: I don’t know. I would say probably not. And anyone that claims that all women can experience all things, I think.
Dan: And they should, and they’re broken if they can’t.
Tilly: Yeah, [00:25:00] I think is a flat out liar because you don’t know that woman’s anatomy. You don’t know what accidents she may have had or whatever or whatnot.
Everyone’s anatomy is so vastly different. The way that the clitoris is situated in your body is completely different than someone else. And I know for a fact that some women, it’s just easy for them to come because their clitoris is situated so close in a way that the stimulation hits them just right.
And some women it is further back. And while the clitoris isn’t completely responsible for G spot pleasure, it definitely facilitates it. The legs and the curie of the clitoris surround the g spot tissue and any sort of blended pleasure clitoral pleasure combined with g spot pleasure is going to make it very likely easier for that to happen and That’s why I say, I don’t know that it’s possible for everyone.
I [00:26:00] can’t, I can’t speak for everyone’s bodies, but I think it’s definitely worth a shot. I wouldn’t make it an absolute mission to be like, ah, I gotta have that G spot orgasm or I’m a failure as a woman because I think you’re setting yourself up for, um, the exact thing that keeps us from experiencing orgasms is a goal.
Dan: Yes, absolutely. We need to, underline that and highlight it. You can’t be so goal oriented with orgasm. It,
Tilly: it
Dan: doesn’t work that way.
Tilly: It is literally the irony of learning to have different types of orgasms in different ways is that you have to stop trying and you have to meet your body where it’s at and allow yourself to feel.
whatever it is you’re feeling, even if you don’t like it. That’s, that’s what I teach women to do because I get a lot of ambitious women who come in and they’re like, I’ve got to have this type of orgasm or be able to do this cool [00:27:00] sex thing. Or I’m a failure. And I’m like, Whoa, babe, chill. Let’s take a step back.
Uh, can we be at peace with our body? Can we accept their body the way it is? Can we accept pleasure and the way that we receive it without judging it? Because that’s when your body will open to more, but the more judgment you have on it, the more you try to make it do something just because you want to be able to check off a box.
The more your body’s gonna be like, well, mm mm, I ain’t opening up to you today.
Dan: Right. That is so good. We do need to be at peace with the pleasure that we do have.
Tilly: Yeah.
Any
Dan: other thoughts on the lines of being more joyful , and have more fun, kind of like that woman in your workshop, right? Like, just be more joyful and free with enjoying the gift of sexuality and pleasure.
Tilly: Yeah, that’s when I work with couples, that’s one of the first things that we have to get over [00:28:00] is the seriousness and what they have made sex mean for their relationship and often it’s something that’s really heavy and not fun to think
Dan: about. Or it’s a power struggle like who’s going to prevail here?
It’s a battle. Uh huh. Yeah.
Tilly: Oh my gosh. Yes, sex is literally the ultimate adult playground if it doesn’t feel like You’re playing and you’re having fun and you’re out to recess just for the heck of it because that’s what you do as kids.
If it doesn’t feel like that, you are not doing it right. You have made it mean way more things than it needs to mean. You’ve created a story around it. That’s probably shutting down you from the pleasure that you want to experience, the intimacy you want to experience, and you got to get over it.
Dan: That’s good.
Great.
Let’s say you’re in a relationship and one of you really wants to try G spot stimulation and the other is pretty ambivalent about it.
[00:29:00] How do you recommend the person is really interested in going about starting a conversation with their ambivalent spouse about trying this?
Tilly: Um, this is good. This happens quite frequently when one of you is in more of an adventurous or curious stage of your sexuality and the other isn’t there. They’re in some other stage of their sexuality.
And the one who is in that curious, adventurous stage. Recognizing that, okay, maybe my partner isn’t in that stage because we do all go through stages. There’s transformational, there’s healing, and there’s resting, and there’s adventurous and curious. If you’re wanting to try new things, it’s because you are in the adventurous, curious in your partner.
If they’re not there too, that’s because they’re not. So having compassion for where, what stage of sexuality your partner is in. You know, if your female partner just had a baby and [00:30:00] she’s going through that, she’s in like a, a resting phase of her sexuality, she’s probably going to be up for that.
But if she is, just approaching it with curiosity and letting your partner know why you want to try these new things, maybe because it is your board, maybe because you are. Really, like, if you have a partner and you don’t really want to talk about it, people that are feeling that it’s becoming monotonous and that’s okay to talk to your partner about that and let them know it’s very important that they know if they don’t, then how are you gonna have an outlet for that?
But most people stop talking about sex. So if we don’t talk about it, well, we have nowhere to start. we have to actually make our desires known. So. And if they’re open to it, great. And if they’re not, then, you know, you have to honor where your partner is at and they might not be in the same stage as you.
Dan: Great. Very good.
All right. So that’s A couple is trying [00:31:00] this, they’re having a little bit of success, they’re being more joyful and having fun in the bedroom, and now they’re ready to take things to the next level. What is your black belt sex tip?
Tilly: Oh man, there’s so many. Ah, women. The best sex tip I could give you is to start a jade egg practice.
Jade or yoni egg practice, whatever you want to call it. People call it both the things. And I don’t necessarily say that that’s a tip. Maybe it is a tip is a tip that, Hey, go check it out because it does do fascinating things in your experience of pleasure in terms of increasing it and being less.
desensitized and more sensitive, but it really is phenomenal to learn how to use the JDAG to increase your capacity for pleasure and for men presence. Most women just want you to be more [00:32:00] present, to be more with them and their full expression of the sexuality. It is so vulnerable for women to fully surrender and they won’t feel like they can if they don’t feel like you’re fully there with them.
If you’re thinking about something else, if you’re thinking about some visual that has nothing to do with what’s actually going on in the moment. Presence is the black belt tip for my guys because that’s the one thing that’s going to change everything.
Dan: That is so good. Thank you. Where can people go to learn more about you and your workshops?
Tilly: The Multi Orgasmic Millionaire Podcast or TillyStorm. com
Dan: Very good. Thank you.
Tilly: Yeah. Thanks for having me, Dan.
